Hohenheim OfLight
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Posted - 2005.09.20 10:06:00 -
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 Originally by: Clutch Cargo
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eerh, isn't that obvious ?
Yea, it's obvious. I simply do not understand WHY CCP wants to make mining so difficult. I find absolutely non-sequiter that you would have secure cans that don't even hold one cycle worth of ore?
I know that that within EVE there is this rivalry between pvp/pve/mining/trading/mission running. But there is absolutely no way all you BOB guys would be so casual if CCP implemented something so silly with regard to PVP. I know this because I see the posts regarding aggress timers, safespotting, missile nerfs, tracking, scan probes etc.
So, take jet cans out of the equation because they are not safe. If you mine in a barge you have two choices. Plant secure cans 5k from everything, mine one cycle, fly to them and dump, repeat until how ever many cans are full then get a hauler and collect, or you can fill your hold and fly to station and empty.
IMO this would be the same as allow any fighting ship to hold 1 round of ammo per turret or launcher. To which I would make the argument that you (PVP guys) could pre-launch secure cans to hold your ammo where you need it, have someone in a hauler fly next to you with extra ammo or you could fly back to the station each time and get more. How would like that?
Mining and Industry are just as much a part of this game as anything else. So not having a workable solution to securing ore in the belt is silly and puts more grind to industry than is necessary absent using unsecure jet cans.
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The thing I dislike about the whole ore theft / secure can debate is that fundamentally the miners want increased profit to be handed to them on a plate. They donĘt want to work for it. They donĘt want to interact for it. They just EXPECT it.
I always find it amusing when people moan about a thief, simply because they are complaining that someone is showing them what they should be doing. I donĘt mean they should be going stealing, rather that they should have a hauler collecting their ore.
Ye and lets nor forget all the wining pvpers are doing about the log of timer, for people they have yet to even attack, Or the fact they want instas gone so no one can get past their gate ganks, Or the fact that they want the way warp workes totally alted to work around them, All we want is bigger sec can is that to much to ask, I doubt it would even take more than 5 mins work, for dev.
But I am sure they have to much to do to keep the minorite of vocal pvp players happy. Look at you map for players in space, are we all out in 0.0 killing each other?
Or in safe space mining, missioning and trading?
Who has the bigger blob the siletn majority or the vocal minority?
It's time miners stand up for them selfs, Stop this stuped CCP santion pvp in empire and jsut give us what we asked for a bigger sec can.
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